(light music) >> Welcome to this session at the Amazon EC2 15th birthday event. I'm your host, Lisa Martin. I'm joined by Elaine Harvey, director and technical advisor at AWS. Elaine, welcome to the program. It's great to see you. >> Thank you, Lisa. I'm really glad to be here. >> So here we are celebrating EC2's 15th birthday, probably back in the day, so many customers and many industries couldn't imagine how they would be using the service. Talk to me about how long you've been involved in EC2 and some of the growth and the maturation of the service that you've seen. >> Yeah, I mean, I joined EC2 about eight years ago and it was big then, but much smaller than it is now. And it's grown in so many directions, both in the scale, the instances that we offer, as well as the types of instances, the various types of hardware effectively that we offer for customers to support their workload. It's just grown in so many dimensions. It's really exciting. >> I see here 80 availability zones. 25 regions, local zones in Boston, Dallas, Denver, Houston, Miami, Philadelphia, and nine new locals zones coming just this year. Talk to me a little bit about that. >> So really, what we are trying to do is get compute where customers needed. So we've already had these presences around the world. And with this expansion, we're trying to bring the EC2 offering to customers with much lower latency. And that's why we're doing local zones, regions, availability zones in so many places. So customers can have that compute with low latency to help them interact with their customers. >> I know since its inception, AWS has always been so customer centric, it's always day one there, but prior to joining AWS, as you said, eight years ago, you were involved in a number of startups. One of the things that we consistently hear is how instrumental EC2 has been in reinventing the startup space. What can you tell me about that involvement that it's had? >> Yeah, I mean, the great thing was, I was an EC2 customer before I worked at EC2. So I had been in the startup community for almost 25 years before joining Amazon. And I had been through that life cycle of a startup where you begin, you need some capacity, you need some computers to run your stuff on and eventually you reach a size and you have to go figure out all the hard work. Where am I going to put them? Do I need a data center? What kind of network connectivity do I need? And not only that, you have to invest a lot of money, which startups very rarely have in the early days into buying the equipment you need, just so you could run your business. Do the thing you're really trying to do for your customer. EC2 is a game changer. So I started using EC2 at one of the startups I was at before coming here. Actually I had two prior startups before coming to EC2. And the ability to just get capacity when you needed it, you didn't have to go buy computers. You didn't have to have data center contracts. You just said, I need a hundred of these. And suddenly you had a hundred of the instance you were asking for, completely game changing, especially for a startup where you just don't have that capital to invest. And frankly, you don't want to spend your time dealing with data centers when that's not your business, your business is to serve your customers. >> And I can't imagine the last year and a half, we've seen such acceleration of digital business transformation, how startups and enterprises alike would have fared without having the ability to quickly turn on services like EC2 in this time. >> Yeah, yeah. It was just amazing. During COVID times, we definitely saw that rush of everybody trying to go online companies that had been already starting down that path, going online, scaling more. And suddenly it went from zero to 100 in March and everybody had to go online and it was super exciting to be part of EC2 and be able to enable everybody in the world to do that. >> Incredible amount of acceleration, but also maturation and growth in the whole portfolio of AWS. We've talked about that a number of times on The Cube in the last six or eight months or so, you mentioned nine new availability zones coming in 2021. You've been involved in the regional and the local zone build out. Talk to me about how these regional zones, these availability zones are helping enterprises to run their businesses and applications worldwide with the high availability that their customers are demanding. >> Yeah, yeah. So there's the book the location aspect. So we do need to be worldwide because our customers are worldwide. So we need to be where they need to be. And so that's how we think about the growth of our regions and availability zones and now local zones with lower latency to end customers. There's another aspect to availability zones and regions that is super important for our customers availability, foundationally we treat those as fault zones. So their fault boundaries beyond which customers will not experience faults. So for example, the fundamental way that we think about designing our services isolates faults between regions and between availability zones and customers can use that in their designs such that they'll have a Multi AZ behavior and we contain faults along those boundaries so they can design with that in mind, and their applications can be fault tolerant, relying on those foundational fault domains effectively. >> That's even becoming more and more important as consumers become more and more demanding that services are just available. And you can get anything with the click of a link on your phone. That high availability is really no longer a nice to have what EC2 is delivering, it's table stakes for an organization I can imagine in any industry. >> Absolutely, absolutely. Our customers totally rely on that so that they can serve their customers consistently and reliably. >> It's a tremendous amount of growth Elaine, in the first 15 years, you said you've been with EC2 on this side now working for it for eight years, but had a lot of experience with it before when it was probably in its infancy as a startup customer. What are some of the things that excite you most about the direction in which EC2 is going? >> Yeah, I think we are steadily providing more and more flexibility to our customers. So we are providing them with new instance types to suit their particular workloads. So we're getting more into a variety of offerings that customers can use to achieve the outcomes they want. That's exciting. I think probably the thing that excites me the most though, is the work we're doing around custom silicon. So our Graviton, Inferentia, Trainium chips where we are building custom silicon for a number of reasons. A big factor of that is we are giving our customers the ability to have a much better ROI on compute to cost for their workload. So we're trying to make it more and more cost efficient for our customers to do what they want. The thing that really excites me about it, though, I'll tell you the secret thing that excites me about it is not very well known, but Graviton is not only cost to compute higher efficiency, but it is also power to compute higher efficiency. So it's a greener option. So if a customer for a given workload wanted to reduce their carbon footprint, they can move to Graviton and it consumes substantially less power for the same workload. And that makes me really excited. >> That is exciting and something that I think everybody can wrap their heads around. I was reading something about EC2 and Graviton paving the way for another important initiative, and that's telecommunications, some of the big news, that Dish Network is coming out saying we're going to be building our 5g core network on AWS. A lot of work going on there in telecommunications. >> Yeah. Yeah. That's very exciting. And in line with our overall strategy to get much closer to the end customers, again, to reduce that latency, whether those customers are on a 5g network or on the internet, what we want the ability for our customers to be able to provide compute and their applications wherever their customers are. >> Well Elaine, thank you so much for joining me on the EC2 15th birthday event. A lot of innovation has gone on in the first 15 years. We know what you're excited about and I'm sure, can't even imagine what the next five, 10 or 15 years will hold for EC2, its services and the customers that it delights. We thank you for joining us today. >> Thanks so much, Lisa. >> Elaine Harvey, I Lisa Martin, thanks for watching today's session. (light music)

(upbeat music) >> Narrator: Live from Los Angeles it's The Cube covering Open Source Summit North America 2017. Brought to you by the Lennox Foundation and Red Hat. >> Welcome back, everyone. Live in Los Angeles for The Cube's exclusive coverage of the Open Source Summit North America. I'm John Furrier, your host, with my co-host, Stu Miniman. Our next guest is Elaine Yeung, @egsy on Twitter, check her out. Student at Holberton School? >> At Holberton School. >> Holberton School. >> And that's in San Francisco? >> I'm like reffing the school right here. (laughs) >> Looking good. You look great, so. Open Source is a new generation. It's going to go from 64 million libraries to 400 million by 2026. New developers are coming in. It's a whole new vibe. >> Elaine: Right. >> What's your take on this, looking at this industry right now? Looking at all this old, the old guard, the new guard's coming in, a lot of cool things happening. Apple's new ARKit was announced today. You saw VR and ARs booming, multimedia. >> Elaine: Got that newer home button. Right, like I-- >> It's just killer stuff happening. >> Stu: (laughs) >> I mean, one of the reason why I wanted to go into tech, and this is why I, like, when I told them that I applied to Holberton School, was that I really think at whatever next social revolution we have, technology is going to be somehow interval to it. It's probably not even, like, an existing technology right now. And, as someone who's just, like, social justice-minded, I wanted to be able to contribute in that way, so. >> John: Yeah. >> And develop a skillset that way. >> Well, we saw the keynote, Christine Corbett Moran, was talking really hardcore about code driving culture. This is happening. >> Elaine: Right. So this is not, like, you know, maybe going to happen, we're starting to see it. We're starting to see the culture being shaped by code. And notions of ruling classes and elites potentially becoming democratized 100% because now software, the guys and gals doing it are acting on it and they have a mindset-- >> Elaine: Right. >> That come from a community. So this is interesting dynamic. As you look at that, do you think that's closer to reality? Where in your mind's eye do you see it? 'Cause you're in the front lines. You're young, a student, you're immersed in that, in all the action. I wish I was in your position and all these great AI libraries. You got TensorFlow from Google, you have all this goodness-- >> Elaine: Right. >> Kind of coming in, I mean-- >> So you're, so let me make sure I am hearing your question right. So, you're asking, like, how do I feel about the democratization of, like, educ-- >> John: Yeah, yeah. Do you feel it? Are you there? Is it happening faster? >> Well, I mean, things are happening faster. I mean, I didn't have any idea of, like, how to use a terminal before January. I didn't know, like, I didn't know my way around Lennox or GitHub, or how to push a commit, (laughs) until I started at Holberton School, so. In that sense, I'm actually experiencing this democratization of-- >> John: Yeah. >> Of education. The whole, like, reason I'm able to go to this school is because they actually invest in the students first, and we don't have to pay tuition when we enroll. It's only after we are hired or actually, until we have a job, and then we do an income-share agreement. So, like, it's really-- >> John: That's cool. >> It's really cool to have, like, a school where they're basically saying, like, "We trust in the education that we're going to give you "so strongly that you're not going to pay up front. >> John: Yeah. >> "Because we know you're going to get a solid job and "you'll pay us at that point-- >> John: Takes a lot of pressure off, too. >> Yeah. >> John: 'Cause then you don't have to worry about that overhang. >> Exactly! I wrote about that in my essay as well. Yeah, just, like because who wants to, like, worry about student debt, like, while you're studying? So, now I can fully focus on learning C, learning Python (laughs) (mumbles) and stuff. >> Alright, what's the coolest thing that you've done, that's cool, that you've gotten, like, motivated on 'cause you're getting your hands dirty, you get the addiction. >> Stu: (laughs) >> Take us through the day in the life of like, "Wow, this is a killer." >> Elaine: I don't know. Normally, (laughs) I'm just kind of a cool person, so I feel like everything I-- no, no. (laughs) >> John: That's a good, that's the best answer we heard. >> (laughs) Okay, so we had a battle, a rap battle, at my school of programming languages. And so, I wrote a rap about Bash scripts and (laughs) that is somewhere on the internet. And, I'm pretty sure that's, like, one of the coolest things. And actually, coming out here, one of my school leaders, Sylvain, he told me, he was like, "You should actually put that, "like, pretty, like, front and center on your "like, LinkedIn." Or whatever, my profile. And what was cool, was when I meet Linus yesterday, someone who had seen my rap was there and it's almost like it was, like, set up because he was like, "Oh, are you the one "that was rapping Bash?" And, I was like, "Well, why yes, that was me." (laughs) >> John: (laughs) >> And then Linus said it was like, what did he say? He was like, "Oh, that's like Weird Al level." Like, just the fact that I would make up a rap about Bash Scripts. (laughs) >> John: That's so cool. So, is that on your Twitter handle? Can we find that on your Twitter handle? >> Yes, you can. I will-- >> Okay, E-G-S-Y. >> Yes. >> So, Elaine, you won an award to be able to come to this show. What's your take been on the show so far? What was exciting about you? And, what's your experience been so far? >> To come to the Summit. >> Stu: Yeah. >> Well, so, when I was in education as a dean, we did a lot of backwards planning. And so, I think for me, like, that's just sort of (claps hands). I was looking into the future, and I knew that in October I would need to, like, start looking for an internship. And so, one of my hopes coming out here was that I would be able to expand my network. And so, like that has been already, like that has happened like more than I even expected in terms of being able to meet new people, come out here and just, like, learn new things, but also just like hear from all these, everyone's experience in the industry. Everyone's been just super awesome (laughs) and super positive here. >> Yeah. We usually find, especially at the Open Source shows, almost everyone's hiring. You know, there's huge demand for software developers. Maybe tell us a little bit about Holberton school, you know, and how they're helping, you know, ramp people up and be ready for kind of this world? >> Yeah. So, it's a two-year higher education alternative, and it is nine months of programming. So, we do, and that's split up into three months low-level, so we actually we did C, where we, you know, programmed our own shell, we programmed printf. Then after that we followed with high-levels. So we studied Python, and now we're in our CIS Admin track. So we're finishing out the last three months. And, like, throughout it there's been a little bit, like, intermix. Like, we did binary trees a couple weeks ago, and so that was back in C. And so, I love it when they're, like, throwing, like, C at us when we've been doing Python for a couple weeks, and I'm like, "Dammit, I have to put semicolons (laughs) >> John: (laughs) >> "And start compiling. "Why do we have to compile this?" Oh, anyway, so, offtrack. Okay, so after those nine months, and then it's a six month internship, and after that it's nine months of specialization. And so there's different spec-- you can specialize in high-level, low-level, they'll work with you in whatever you, whatever the student, their interests are in. And you can do that either full-time student or do it part-time. Which most of the students that are in the first batch that started in January 2016, they're, most of them are, like, still working, are still working, and then they're doing their nine month specialization as, like, part-time students. >> Final question for you, Elaine. Share your personal thoughts on, as you're immersed in the coding and learning, you see the community, you meet some great people here, network expanding, what are you excited about going forward? As you look out there, as you finish it up and getting involved, what's exciting to you in the world ahead of you? What do you think you're going to jump into? What's popping out and revealing itself to you? >> I think coming to the conference and hearing Jim speak about just how diversity is important and also hearing from multiple speakers and sessions about the importance of collaboration and contributions, I just feel like Lennox and Open Source, this whole movement is just a really, it's a step in the right direction, I believe. And it's just, I think the recognition that by being diverse that we are going to be stronger for it, that is super exciting to me. >> John: Yeah. >> Yeah, and I just hope to be able to-- >> John: Yeah (mumbles) >> I mean, I know I'm going to be able to add to that soon. (laughs) >> Well, you certainly are. Thanks for coming on The Cube. Congratulations on your success. Thanks for coming, appreciate it. >> Elaine: Thank you, thank you. >> And this is The Cube coverage, live in LA, for Open Source Summit North America. I'm John Furrier, Stu Miniman. More live coverage after this short break. (upbeat music)

>> Hi, my name is Elaine Hanley, I lead the IBM DataOps Center of Excellence. We work with clients to help them to understand their data, understand how they can trust that data to get best value out of it, and use that data within the confines of the regulations that they need to adhere to. Over the last six months, we've been working with clients using our DataOps methodology. We want to come to you and show you and share with you some of the lessons that we've learnt with that. Join us on May 27th, where there'll executives from these companies and from IBM. I hope to see you then and share that with you. Thank you.

welcome back to pre owned alive Jeff Rick here with the cube as you know we go out to the signals we we go out to the offense we extract the signal from the noise or date to hear percona live Santa Clara Convention Center the heart of Silicon Valley John had to step away so I'll be going solo on this and we're excited to to invite to the cube Lane Campbell CEO and co-founder of Blackbird welcome to the cube thank you very much so Blackbird is a new name I saw on my notes what was what was it called before well we are a merger of two companies Palomino DB has been a longtime sponsor and contributor at at Kona for about seven years it has focused on MySQL database operations and consulting dr dev was an operation shop with a DevOps focus okay and we've decided to merge together take everything up the stack build a company that could operate everything with a heavy database focus awesome so when did you complete the merger probably thirty years from now but technically we did in January first okay very good congratulations never never that fun to to complete all the other processes behind a merger absolutely good deal so we caught you I guess in between two keynotes here mmm-hmm at the show mhm so when he tell us a little bit about what you're covering earlier and what are you gonna cover in the not-too-distant future as soon as you get to your slides after we finish the interview absolutely I'm doing a melange of Amazon Web Services talks this time so I just finished scaling MySQL and Amazon Web Services or I talked about both options of Amazon's RDS and ec2 opportunities and the next session is a deep dive into RDS so the relational database service okay great so we were just at at Amazon summit last week in San Francisco we're at Amazon reinvent last year will be at Amazon some in New York City in a couple of months I think July and then of course back at reinvent in October so clearly Amazon has changed in the world that cloud service has been completely transformative and the enterprise disruptive everyone's running to to catch the Andy Jesse and the team at the show just released it just you know it's like an avalanche of feature improvements feature improvements as the breadth of services gets wider and then the depth of the services gets deeper and then I think they announced their forty third consecutive price decrease yes at the show so there's just relentless innovation both in terms of the feature set as well as the as the as the pricing pressure so how did you get involved on working on the Amazon side and what are you seeing in the marketplace with some of your customers and how is it transforming absolutely we started with Amazon when clients were going to it and it was obviously something we need to support particularly we've always been a very bespoke cost company we do make sure to support our customers but like Amazon we can't do everything so Amazon will start with a core and then they'll evolve based on customer need they'll start digging out new features new functionality and so we did the same thing and as more customers used Amazon we moved to Amazon as more customers use RDS we started using RDS and yeah at this point I would say about 75% of our customers are in some sort of cloud whether it is Amazon Google compute Rackspace cloud and even some folks who are building their own private clouds as well and realistically the own that's the way it's gonna go in a few years everything if every piece of infrastructure will be abstracted and this isn't a really exciting time to be part of the move towards that as we evolve our own maturity matrix for customers to show them where they stand on the DevOps maturity Bay matrix being in a virtualized environment where one can evolve very agile configuration management and infrastructure as code is crucial and so we have that's what we at this point we're helping a lot of our customers get to that point we're helping a lot of our customers not need operation staff and managing everything ourselves which is much easier in a virtual cloud environment and also letting people know when it's not the right choice for them so so on the Amazon side right they have the service of yours your value-add then is helping customers is it a configuration piece is it how they set it up is it what apps are they using I mean where where's your value-add sit on top of the Amazon infrastructure then they're purchasing directly from Amazon so Amazon themselves are utility that's all they want to be and they're not interested in running systems that sit on their environment and so we will help customers from a strategic view deciding which which in which a virtualized environment whether it's Amazon or something else is the right choice we will help them choose which of their architectural components should use an Amazon service versus their own service that they would run anywhere and once we do that we help people migrate to Amazon and we can run it the whole thing okay so you help them run it absolutely yes then are you guys playing an OpenStack as well we do have a few customers in OpenStack it's growing a combat side little earlier but yes absolutely so talk a little bit about when when customers are talking about making the move to the cloud and they want to use Amazon or they want to use a service like that what are some of the strategic gates you walked in through and making a decision as to whit you know what should be where what workloads should be in a public cloud what workload should be maybe on their own or behind the firewall or you know where a hybrid is more appropriate absolutely and I will say that up until recently we have predominantly worked with startups who are about in their mid level of maturity so not as much enterprise clients who might have much more hybridized environment realistically a lot of the folks that come in don't have large operations staff they don't and the staff that they do have want to be working on features right what we call development velocity and so we look for customers who recognize that and item a at this point I don't think a virtualized environment is optional anymore and more often than not unless they are an enterprise or unless they have a large commitment to an existing data center going with something like open stock doesn't make a lot of sense but that being said we do make sure with anyone that we are bringing in that we set everything up with a mitigated risk so that it is easy to get them out even though we've never had an issue with any specific provider for risk purposes it makes a lot of sense to use multiple clouds or to use an on-premise and other hybrid so then so that their startups or most of the applications that you're getting involved with their new applications that they're building as part of their startup a game or whatever one if you can give any examples so we're very much in their retail vertical and the gaming vertical we do have a few others in healthcare and you know sometimes I tease sometimes infrastructure but predominantly and most of the verticals we work with are either retail or gaming and in those environments we will either be brought in for a system that has grown past often that's already either already in Amazon but it was not architected for scale okay and we will come in and help them get to that next level okay more often than not we do have of course some green fields we're doing a large large infrastructure change right now for a new acquisition for Shutterfly okay and in that environment we're going right to RDS and using that okay so one of the one of the potential knocks on a cloud environment or infrastructures of service is is is there a point in time where the cost of rent suddenly becomes more than it would be the cost to buy we're often for speed of implementation getting started clearly renting a service is the easier and lower friction do you find that with your customers or as Amazon able to keep up in terms of pricing reductions where they can stay where they tend to stay kind of Amazon pure as opposed to hitting you know kind of this breaking point where maybe we really should put in our own infrastructure and it's getting really expensive to continue to kind of rent the service absolutely in RDS there was a there was a point where people were getting priced out of RDS which is more expensive than the instances underneath and at that point we had a lot of customers coming to us asking to move the new PI think they dropped most of their prices and RDS by 40% last week so it's amazing right so it gets a lot better some of the larger systems can be very significant but at this point you can get a managed database server that is fully redundant for about six thousand dollars a year and it's pretty impressive what we will find is we'll help customers manage cost one of the things people forget is you have a whole new component of infrastructure management in how do you whether it's using reserved instances spot instances auto scaling up and auto scaling down removing snapshots there's so many opportunities to manage costs that people forget about and we make sure that that happens as well so that people don't get runaway kraut runaway bills so to really find really fine-tune their their their instance at AWS or kind of cost optimize based on because there's a lot of choices right there's a lot of there's a lot of variables in an Amazon in a lot of Amazon purchase yes and there are absolutely tons of ways to save money it's essentially just another facet of automation becomes the cost management part of it and that's one of the most amazing things of Amazon is particularly for a customer that can leverage elasticity whether it's because of peak seasons retail during Christmas education during semesters any customer that can rely on the Dyna Missa tee of an Amazon can scale up can scale down can shift out and really pay when they need to pay or not pay when they don't okay so you've been doing this for a while from kind of a longer-term perspective right there's a lot of new entrants into the public cloud space really you know Google compute and you know Cisco just announced a billion-dollar initiative I think last week for their new public cloud you got HP cloud but sure there's a lot of clouds out there mmm but clearly it appears that anglin's got a giant lead I think Andy said it was their eighth year of the AWS summit what's your kind of perspective as a kind of a service provider looking at the market and trying to deliver value to your customers as to Amazon's position relative to everybody else kind of jumping in the game so at this point we predominantly work with either Amazon Google compute or Rackspace and that is where we focused we don't do a significant amount of Windows so we haven't really played too much with Azure at this point we are predominantly working with what our customers already have if it is completely Greenfield which it's pretty rare they'll bring in a service provider that early we would tend to focus on a combination of those two and that of course will depend on the strategy and the goal we don't want to over build something before they actually have the revenue and the business model supporting what they need there's a lot of options out there like anything it's a matter of managing risk and as a I am a CEO but I was a database administrator by trade and managing risk is core so I will not go to a new database release in its first year and I will not go to a new cloud and probably its first three to four years unless there's something extraordinarily compelling feature that just makes you be willing to accept a huge amount of risk right okay so let's shift gears a little bit and talk about we're here at Percona live shows growing I think he said it's his tenth year of the show why is this important event what's the what's the feeling you're getting here at the show from the community so I started coming to these back when they was in our Riley show when it was the O'Reilly of MySQL conference versus percona who took it over open source is a huge deal and it still is extraordinarily relevant I believe very firmly that open source technology and the access to code the access to tech and to software and the access to open source education is what's going to help us get into the next level of the technological workforce at this point I'm not sure you probably know the numbers since I know you do this more than me but even in Silicon Valley there are 300,000 Latino families who don't have access to computers and internet so any any come any organization like percona liven like MySQL that is based on open source needs to be supported because that is going to be what helps a child in Kenya solve cancer figure out cancer and get us to the next level so that's why I come out here yeah we support closed source databases too but wherever possible we're going to come support an open source product so let's shift gears again cuz I know you're passionate about diversity in tech and you've talked about some of the digital divide you know with with families and people having access to the to the tools and then of course the education and and and the focus on stem we're big fans of women in tech and diversity in tech all of us have we don't have a lot of women hosts but we all have a lot of daughters yeah we're pretty passionate about it and growing up here in the heart of the valley clearly girls need to learn how to code mom so can you talk about some of the things that you get involved with to support that effort in terms of diversity in tech absolutely one one amazing incident actually is at percona live last year they did not have a code of conduct and we had a bit of an issue and some there was a some conversations had and this year we're gonna live now has a code of conduct which helps women come out and feel like there's a clearly written statement that they will not be harassed they will not be intimidated that they are welcome and that is a huge step in and of itself and it was really an issue last year in the year 20 2013 there always is there always is it's amazing when you actually start looking at women speaking out about harassment and you know even abuse at conferences how it quickly devolves into them being attacked stalked harassed it's pretty radical so I was very happy that rakonin took that on and got that in place I was on the content committee for this conference and I was in the beginning there were only about five five proposals out of 400 from women and they were really very nice about helping me extend it and get out there and get more women presenting at the conference here which is great I'm speaking at a bright role hosted data-driven Women events in about a month and wherever I can getting out there at the ghats he just invited me to code his craft to talk about that at their meetups as well good that's he's an amazing organization for bringing women into tap good it seems to be getting more exposure so just a shot out four we've got a great women in tech playlist of women in tech that have been on the cube if you go to Silicon angle dot TV look under playlist women in tech I think we just looked before we came on there we have 97 women of all roles responsibilities seniority size of companies who've been on the cube and you'll be joining that list shortly X so we're big fans and and it's it's it is amazing in 2014 that this is still an issue but we do see more and more at these conferences that there's often you know kind of a women in tech launch track or special networking event or or thanks to really encourage two women to be not only involved but really kind of take a leadership position we saw that back with at EMC world last year with Sheryl Sandberg as well so that's that's great so what's kind of next you've been doing this a long time you've been involving this community a while what's kind of the next big hill to take in terms of the micing community well right now for us it's DevOps and I don't know if you're familiar with it but near this culture of bringing the development operations teams together as we have more infrastructure as code as we get to a point where you cannot compete if you cannot continually push code out push change out that's where we reached and with every customer we're working on we're pushing development velocity getting them to have you know the ability to push code out as fat as rapidly as they won and as safely as they want we just announced today an open-source toolkit for continuous delivery for databases that is starting with MySQL and we feel like that's going to be the next step big data of course is there we are in the middle of ramping up a cassandra team which is a very good addition in the data ecosystem to a relational system like like MySQL and the demand for it is insane so we're very excited to have just brought on our second full time experience because Andre DBA and a building that out as well so in the clients right there's a lot of huge trends right now there's there's kind of mobile first right it was to recently get the mobile first as a driver there's the DevOps culture and and agile software development you know just get stuff out in this this continual pace of improvements and bug fixes and rolling and then and then finally the data first mm-hmm which is kind of the newer trend within your clients of those three things what's really the the primary driver if you had to pick one of the three I will answer that in a way that doesn't answer your question but that happens often excellent right now I believe it's DevOps in a few years and no one will know what that is anymore it will be ubiquitous it is an opportunity right now and then it's going to be data at this point you know we're in the cloud environment and it is the next revolution this virtualized environment infrastructure as a utility just like the electrical and industrial revolutions but data really is a big data and you know how does how to get the data in right now we're in the basics how do you get all of that data in there how do you keep it available how do you manage these huge forms of data but soon it will be about the machine learning and the continued evolution of pulling insights from it and that's what we're gonna be seeing awesome Elaine thanks for coming on the cube Thank You V been here with Len Campbell the CEO and co-founder of Blackbird we're at percona live 2014 Santa Clara California you're watching the cube we go out to the events extract the signal from the noise get the smartest people that we can find in the room bring them on the cube ask them the questions you'd like to ask them so thanks for staying with us we'll be back after this short break with our next guest