>>Live from San Francisco. It's the cube covering micron insight 2019 brought to you by micron. >>We'll come back to San Francisco. Everybody wears pier 27. This is the queue. We're following micron insight 2019. Dave Volante with David flora. Theresa Kelly is here. She is the vice president of the CPG consumer products group at my country. So thanks for running over to the cube for a moment. >>Glad to be here. Thank you. So tell us about CPG. What's the, what's the scope? >> So CPG is a consumer products group. We have a crucial Grande that's been around for 23 years. Uh, we sell to you and you and me. And we provide SSD solutions and DRAM solutions. So it could be someone upgrading their computer, it can be someone that is trying to be a gamer because we have high performance DRAM. And today we announced we broke the world record. Yeah. So with a, an AMD platform and ASIS, uh, a team. So the three teams, partners, so pretty excited about that. Tell us about the hard news. What are the announcements that you made? So I just mentioned that we broke the record. So we were able to achieve a, a speed of 6,024 mega transfers with the AMD, um, partnership. And as soon as, so pretty excited about that because that just shows we are, you know, a vertically integrated company and we're great. We've got great product out there and we provide that to the gamers out there and are able to give a group a solution both at the mainstream and the high end performance. >> And then that's a major growth area. That game is, yes, it is a couple of these shows. Yes, yes. Different normal than number audiences they get in person and online. So you got it. >>So when we started the cube, we started on Justin TV, which became, >>which we used to get so much traffic. We're like, where's all this traffic coming from? You know, what it was, it was the gamers, so. Huh. What's the importance of gaming? Well, let's start, >> you mentioned Twitch. We've got one of the teams we sponsor that's a big Twitch, uh, following up there, the energy team. And so they're one of the, uh, both set better happening. So, you know, from a gaming perspective, it, it, it is a very, you know, one of the fastest growing, uh, consumer DRAM markets. And it is something that allows us to put both DRAM and SSD out there to the consumer. We sell to the consumer. We also partner with those that make those platforms. You know, it could be someone upgrading a computer or um, someone that's buying it in the store. So pretty excited about because we have both solutions and are, are both vertically integrated, which no one else has. >>Some gamers need. They need memory, they need need. Joe's about more about the, the crucial brand. You know, you guys are amplifying that know what's behind the brand and what's the brand promise. Yeah, crucial is um, having met with some friends yesterday, they said, you are a trusted brand. We know we're gonna get quality product from you. We ask what do we know now? And we do, we deliver on what we say. We don't make hype news. We very much are able to say we're going to deliver such a product and, and bring that back to you. And we're known for great customer support too. We've spent time over the past 12 months continuing to build out a portfolio for our consumers and they've, the response has been great. Both again on the SSD side and on the DRAM side. So it is, it's a brand that is worldwide. We're across the world. We sell places like Amazon but also a lot in Europe and in Asia. There's still a lot of retail, so we saw to retail too and or@crucial.com so we're provide solutions. >>Well it's good. Yeah. Consumer spending is powering our economy right now, so that's great. Last question is what should we expect going forward? You know, give us some guideposts. >>So you know, we have, as with the announcements today, I mentioned, I hadn't mentioned that the exit was announced today. It's our portable SSD almost twice as fast as any SSD portable SSD out there with that price point. So pretty excited for that. Again, giving great, you know, value for our money with our vertical integration. And we definitely have, um, insights into wine to build, uh, a broader portfolio in time for our consumers and we look to them and where the market's going to provide the solutions. And as mentioned, gaming is very important to us, so we intend to continue to have investments there too. >>Love, it sure is the gift that keeps on giving, right? We keep increasing capacities, lowering costs, and now increasing performance. Theresa, thanks very much for coming on the. Okay. Give right there. We be back shortly. Is this the cube from micron inside 2019.

>> Live from San Francisco, it's theCUBE. Covering IBM Think 2019. Brought to you by IBM. (energetic techno music) >> Welcome to theCUBE's coverage of IBM Think 2019 in San Francisco. I'm Lisa Martin with Stu Miniman. We're at Moscone Center, the rejuvenated Moscone Center. Welcoming a first-time guest to theCUBE: Matthias Funke, Director of Offering Management, Hybrid Data Management from IBM. Matthias, thanks for joining us on the program. >> I'm glad to be here. >> So talk to us about what you're responsible for: products and strategy for hybrid data management. Unpack that for us. >> Yeah so my role in the business is to define a strategy for our hybrid data management offerings. So set the priorities and then very much focus on alignment across the different functions we have in the business in support of those priorities and the strategy. So think of marketing, sales, development, offering management all coming together and align themselves in support of those priorities. And then bring new capabilities and offerings to market together. >> Great, so Matthias we'd love to have you on because in our open this morning we were talking about in all the shows we go to, everybody talks about how important data is. Now of course the database is one of those places that data has always been. And now we have things like AI and developers and everything else, modernizing how we think about that sort of environment. Seems that's something that's central to what you are doing. Maybe you'd explain how some of these mega waves are impacting your products and your customers. >> So obviously given my role, I believe in the importance of the database. I think it's at the core and the foundation of what we at IBM currently describe as the AI letter. So anybody who wants to realize business benefits by delivering better insights on data to the business differentiate themselves as a company to the competition. It all starts with data and the ability to collect data and bring it together and make it accessible for the business. So yeah the role of the database cannot be underestimated in my opinion. >> There's so much, we talk about this Stu at every event that we go to on theCUBE, the power of data data's the new oil, et cetera. We also talk a lot about trust and how trust is essential. There are what I think, this data I saw the other day Stu is that 80% of the world's data is not searchable. Companies understand that data is valuable. It's liquid gold for example. But extracting, finding that data, finding the insights rather in that data, is hugely challenging. IBM is great at dealing with complexities. Talk to us about what IBM is doing to bring modern technologies like AI to the database for example to help customers start extracting quickly the value in these massive pools of data. >> Right. So first of all I think we all live, at least on my side of the business, we sometimes, we tend to live in our own bubble. We believe that the world already embraced AI and embraced-- everybody has embarked on a journey to AI. The reality is that many companies struggle. Now we did an ASIS survey out there. I don't recall exactly the source but like 49% of all this CIO's of the companies out that day they struggled in executing a strategy towards AI. If you think about Gardener as an analyst Gardener would say: today 60% of the companies have an AI strategy. And for years from now, 90% of companies have an AI strategy. It's an expression of the importance of the data and in the strategy for their respective businesses. But many companies haven't, are not there yet, right? So it's our job to help them get there. And yes, in the database and data management the ability to collect data and make it accessible is key for success. When it comes to AI on the data layer I look at it in two ways. So how do we bring intelligence into the database to make the life of the user, like the DBA the database administrator easier all right? Alter my things that use similar amount of labor. That use the skills and quiet to operate a database. And the other angle is how do you help people build intelligent applications with database, right? And simplify the access to the data. >> Yeah, you bring up some great points there. We love talking about the role of what's happening inside of jobs today. It used to be the DBA was kind of they had their own silo there. They would manage everything else. The whole wave of big data was I should be able to have, almost anybody in the business should be able to access data in (mumbles). You'd be able to leverage it. Help connect the dots with us as we go to this AI world. Where does the DBA sit compared to the rest of the business? How was their role different today than it was just a few years ago? >> Right. So in order to democratize access to data and make it available, the cloud has promised a lot. We have public cloud. We have private cloud. At the end of the day, the expectation is that you use the number of dependencies that the end user who wants to deal with the data has on different people in the organization. The DBA plays a core role in making sure that the data is available. Especially in traditional or in premises environments. But also in the private cloud. When it comes to public cloud, often that role is now delegated to the public cloud provider. You're thinking about public managed database services. So you delegate that role. But still that job is to make sure that data is available. That communities perform in an efficient way. And so the business can depend on those datasets being available and just create a (mumbles) on every day, day in and day out. >> Yeah, absolutely. When we look at a hybrid world so much of what IT specifically has asked for they now need to manage of bunch of stuff that's outside of their purview. So I've got the stuff that I own plus everything else. So what does a hybrid data management solution look like >> for customers today? >> Yeah, it's a huge challenge. Because think about different heterogeneous repositories datasets is hiding in different locations. How do you abstract that to the user or the application that you have in your organization? Alright, so data virtualization is a term that comes up quite often in this context. But how do you virtualize all that physical topology? >> How do you protect investments that people make as the bird? Let's say their solution on a certain data is stayed in one specific form factor. But then later on the side we want to move that to a different form factor because of the economics. How do you preserve that investment? And the answer here is often, well you got to make sure that the integration points are consistent. The experience and the way you interact with those data management properties is consistent and unified across that hybrid environment. If you have enough datasets of premises or in the cloud or in private cloud you want this all to look and feel the same essentially. >> Do you have an example of some customers that you've worked with across the globe that 'cause you've been with IBM a long time you said 21 years? >> Oh, I was hoping you would not say that. >> Ha! Ha! I'm sorry. >> (laughs) >> (laughs) You're a veteran. You're an expert on this. I'm curious, some of the evolution that you've witnessed? Whether it's in the role of the database or the DBA the administrator themselves. What are some of the trends that you have seen IBM really help to, help companies achieve and be really successful across industries in the last 20 years? >> So I don't really recall what happened 20 years ago but I can give you some recent examples and there is (mumbles) There is an insurance company that I've been working with for a while. And the example that they gave me at a time was hey we takes us, when we as a business user, and our business user or business analysts, they have a new question to answer for the business. It takes them like eight to 10 weeks to actually get access to the data that allows them to answer the question. And by the time the data is available to them the question has moved on. They have a different question to ask. And the reason it takes eight to 10 weeks is that there's so many different functions involved in the business to find where the data is at in the organization. How to bring it into the environment that these business users have access to. It's tremendous. It challenges that complex organization's face here. So IBM Cloud Private for Data is an example, right? And it's our answer to, in delivering in the experience that basically accelerates that whole work flow. And skips or avoids dependencies between different persona types that are associated with that work flow. So simplify that journey, make it easy so that the business user feels fully empowered to access the data that they want to without depending on anyone else in the organization. >> Yeah, Matthias, one of the strengths that IBM has is just a long history of really owning that application and understanding the people that use it. And how I get that all the way through the infrastructure through the data and the piece. What should people be looking for? I know there'll be some announcements that we can't specifically talk about today. But what sort of things should we be looking for from IBM? >> So I'm very excited about what's coming up later this week, what we will be talking about. We think it's disrupting 40 years of database technology in the way we put in jest or infuse intelligence into our database to make the life of the different users easier. Or to the way we bring different vocal types together over a single copy of data that deals with all kinds of challenges that you have in a complex state of architectures. Think about data latency, moving data from A to B. Which is very costly. So how to avoid that, I make it more effective and efficient for the organization. >> So Matthias you said, disrupt 40 years of database-- >> Yes. >> I looked through-- >> I know. >> my career. I've got a couple of years in the industry also. Intelligence and automation, things we've been talking about for a long time, they explain why 2019, we have the tools so that AI can actually offer up something disruptive that isn't just what we've been talking about for decades. >> Yeah so, the analogy I would use is the car industry. For a hundred years we have been using combustion engines, right? And you have porteous engines and (mumbles) engines at different form factors like a truck, like a regular car. And you might get available a different consumption models. Think about a taxi or Uber or you buy a car right? So, but what happen with the engine is Tesla took that to the next levels. I know, we go all electric. That's disruptive, right? When you bring that back to IT and data management the cost-space optimizer in a database has been there for 40 years. So the way people compile their career-ities execute their career plans on data has been the same for 40 years. On whence they would be talking about a new method to do that. And it has tremendous gains in terms of performance in terms of simplicity for the users. So I'm very excited about that. But that's just one aspect of what we going to talk about on Wednesday. >> When you talk about, disruption's the word that's used a lot, but 40 years, four decades of, I won't say status quo but I think you'd understand what I'm talking about. When IBM has a massive install base of big companies like IBM, what are, along the lines of this big disruption things that we'll learn about in the next couple of days what are some of the things that excite you about helping some of these massive companies, such as IBM to actually embrace this disruption, leverage it for competitive advantage and be able to find new revenue streams? >> So yeah that's a great question, Lisa, because you can have all kinds of innovative ideas and technologies. What matters is how you productize it, how you give it into the hands of your clients, and how you help them gain value from that. All right, so that's my job. That's why I get out of bed everyday because I see this as a very exciting journey, a very exciting mission for myself and for our team at IBM. And seeing these clients and benefiting from it by saying hey we have reduced so much cost or we have gained new agility in the way we can bring new capabilities to our lines of businesses and become more competitive in the industry is really exciting. >> Excellent. Well Matthias thanks so much for joining Stu and me on the program this morning. We appreciate your time, look forward to hearing some of these announcements coming out later this week. >> (laughs) Thank you. >> We want to thank you for watching theCUBE. I'm Lisa Martin with Stu Miniman and we are live, Day One, of IBM Think 2019. Stick around. Our next guest will be joining us shortly. (energetic techno music)

>>covering EMC world 2016 brought to you by EMC. Now here are your hopes, Stu Milliman and Brian Gracely. >>Welcome to the cube SiliconANGLE media's flagship program. We go out to all the enterprise tech shows, help extract the signal from the noise. This is EMC roll 2016. It's actually our seventh year at the show. Personally for me, it's my 14th year coming to the show, so lots of familiar faces. Happy to bring on as our first guest here on this set. Brian Gracely and I are welcoming a first time member of the cube and a new person to EMC, Josh Bernstein, who is the VP of technical strategy with the MC. Welcome to the cube. Thank you. Alright, you will be joining an illustrious audience of thousands of people site called cube alumni. Everyone from Michael Dell who happens to be being interviewed right now, John Cleese, Satya Nadella, and yourself. I know from Apple, uh, about a year ago EMC. Give our audience a little bit of a understanding of your background, uh, you know, and what would bring you to leave Apple to join, you know, EMC storage. >>That's a great question. Um, you know, I had the pleasure of working with some really talented people at Apple. Um, we basically designed and built the Siri infrastructure from the ground up from day one, um, up until about the time I left about a year ago. And, um, I wanted a different challenge. I wanted to do something different. You know, at some point, you know, it's year four and they're like, how many servers do you need to add? And you're like another 5,000 boxes here, 5,000 boxes. They're like, it was sort of rinse and repeat, but we went on an amazing journey. We ran the world's largest VMware environment, um, and then ran what I still think is the world's largest mesas containerized environment. And the one problem, you know, the engineering me, the one problem that kind of stuck with us was that, um, at that time we couldn't figure out a good way to run persistent applications in our containerized environments. And we kind of punted and kind of worked around the issue. But as an engineer, I wanted to go solve that problem. Um, Brian and his team had created amazing work with EMC code previously and it was just, uh, I was really passionate about solving that problem technically, and that that's the biggest reason I came was to do something different and to solve a problem that, that bothered me. >>Yeah. So, uh, yeah, by my cohost here, Brian Gracely, right. Was a year ago during the EMC code team. I actually had some history. I was the like product manager for Linux back at EMC back in 2000. So I know for a fact how many people knew open source over my time there and what's there. So talk a little bit about the kind of the trend of open source and what's that >>mean to EMC? Yeah, I mean I think that that open source is always something that's been near and dear to my heart. Um, I think really what it comes down to, technically customers talk or people talk all the time as a cheaper, is it better code qualities of all these sort of very qualitative kind of kind of ideas for me, I think it's about integration, right? Open source allows me to take, um, to take software, consume software in a way that makes it easier to integrate with the rest of my environment. And as we move towards cloud native applications, as we move towards microservices starting adopting 12 factor applications, the ease of integration, really what I think people care about in the end. And so that's why, that's why open source is important. And I think that if you look at our customer base, um, they want a solution that that has real value. >>And so they're not necessarily just concerned about the fastest this or the largest this. They want to see how it fits into their environment. And the work that we do in the community around EMC code really solves that last mile, if you want to think about it that way. So I'm thrilled to be a part of it. Yeah. So I mean, you've been around EMC now for a year. A lot of enterprise customers you get to get access to. We can. One of the things I, you know, we've talked about it throughout the keynote today and yet one of the things was when you were at Siri, Siri is essentially it's a product facing, it's not so much an it function, it's a business facing. How much business facing conversations are you getting to have now as EMC evolves, as Dell evolves, people want to know like, how do I do that digital business thing as opposed to just, you know, it more efficient. >>Yeah. I think I have that conversation probably nine times out of 10 actually. Um, every CIO or every executive I speak to has a customer facing application or, or some sort of customer facing support. Yeah. So I have that conversation constantly. Um, and what Siri did was just, it was just another business application. You know, for an airline, it's a reservation system for a, a, a, a bank. It's their, their app, their mobile app, right. Siri was just, just another app in the end. And so that's the conversation I find myself having all the time. Right. One of the things that your team's heavily involved with. You said persistence with containers, persistence. What does that mean? You know, for somebody who's not living that everyday, give us there, give us the, you know, one-on-one version of what that means and why it's important for this new world. >>Yeah, I mean, I think that, um, you know, in the early years with virtual machines, we, we, uh, this idea that applications could be stateful or can store data inside the virtual machine and when the, when the virtual machine needed to be moved or spun up or, or operated on, um, the storage or the data of the application kind of came with it. Containers are much more lighter weight, so you get a lot more agility out of things. They're a lot simpler, but unfortunately that a femoral nature, that idea that they, they don't persist or they don't kind of store state with them makes migrating applications to containers relatively difficult. So I felt like if we could solve that, that, that issue technically, um, if we could solve it operationally, uh, then we could really help customers move the ball forward into, into a third platform and into these container worlds. >>Cause I don't think it's realistic to expect people to rewrite their applications all the time. Right. Um, and some applications are never going to be rewritten. Customers run Oracle customers run my SQL Postgres, these databases, why can't we run them in containers? And that's really what we're enabling with this. Yeah. Stu and I were sitting in the analyst briefing this morning. Jeremy Burton was talking about, uh, either OpenStack or some open source technology and was throwing around words, open source words as if, you know, he was at any meetup. Right. So talk about just over the last year, how much has open source changed within EMC? How comfortable do you think they feel, you know, when the executive team and out in the field? Well, first of all, Jeremy is the biggest supporter. I mean, I think that, um, he, he's passionate about this. I think he understands the, the, the value that it's bringing to his business. >>From a, from a community standpoint, we've contributed over 350,000 lines of code. We have 48 active projects and we have 1100 community followers in our Slack channel right now. Um, so I think that the traction that we've gotten and the interest has been tremendous. Uh, we've also provided a, a, a facility for other people inside of EMC that have side projects to open source those projects through EMC code, um, through the dev high five program. And it's been, uh, the, the amount of support is just continuing to grow. It's been fantastic. That's great to hear. That's great to hear. What, what, you know, as, as you're here sort of last year you got announced on stage as new guy, you've been here for a year, you've got a lot going on. What's, what are some of the highlights for you that you're looking for this week and you want people to go, you know, watch the next couple of days? >>Yeah, that's great. I think it's, um, I mean, hopefully you'll watch my, uh, my keynote on Wednesday. Um, but I think from a technical standpoint, I have a good reception on Wednesday at 3:00 PM Pacific. Hopefully you all will stream it. Um, and we're really talking about how open source to change the data center and how I'm running persistent applications or, or, um, stored state applications and containers, uh, matters and why it matters. And I had my friend Toby from ASIS fare on stage with me then and we're actually going to do a demo in front of everybody in real time. Wow. Um, so I'm very excited about that. So Josh, you know, a lot of the people that come to EMC world, they're infrastructure people. Yeah. Right. Can you help, you know, what's that journey from infrastructure to infrastructure as code? You know, I think infrastructure is, code is sort of a subset of, of dev ops, right? >>And if you kind of have to organize a little bit, dev ops is really this adaptation of a, uh, a operational model and it operational model where traditionally we have these silos of compute, network and storage that manage and maintain that environment. And when you adopt dev ops, it's all about tearing down those walls. And one of the ways by which you do that is through adopting infrastructure as code. Um, and it's this idea that I can declare my given state of infrastructure and software and therefore I can apply software development principles to my infrastructure and operate much more efficiently that way. And so that, that's, that's why I infrastructure and code is very important stuff like this. All right. So when we hear announcements about, you know, unity and converged infrastructure, how much was the work that you've been working on, you know, make its way into stuff that looks more like traditional storage filled products? >>I think that's great. I mean, I, I, that's a great question. If you look at the unity platform, you'll have some interesting surprises over the way that that platform is put together and assembled. Um, but also that we still realize that there's plenty of people that want to leverage unity with containers or leverage some of our other more traditional storage lines with containers. And a lot of the work we're doing around Rex Ray is really, uh, any other EMC code products is really focused on that. And it's about delivering a solution end to end and not just dropping a product off and helping people plug it in. But open source is always a little unusual for anybody who's used to commercial software. You can kind of track it, you can eventually figure out customers. If you guys see an examples where you, you know, a company, a customer, a partner is gone. >>I'm using your software, I'm collaborating with you and we're now starting to move it, you know, like how do you, how do you connect the software you're building to what's going on in the marketplace? Yeah, that's a great question. We have a lot of customers now that are picking up our projects saying, Hey, we love this. We're really looking forward to it. Um, how do we maintain support for it? We like to pay for a support contract and things like that. And um, and we're happy to have those, those conversations. Some of the largest EMC customers are actually going down that right. Right now they realize that, um, the open source is key to integration and if it delivers real value, then customers are actually volunteering, wanting to pay for that value and looking for that commercial support. So I think that's the biggest yard stick, if you can look at what's happened in the last year is customers are coming back to us now and saying, Hey, this, this one project I use every day. >>Um, it's really critical to our business. Can you officially support it with, you know, the world class support that EMC has delivered for so many years. Wow. And so that, that's really exciting and that that's really validated. And when you talk to those customers, a lot of them, you know, we, we see in talking to them, they're trying to figure out open source, right? Right. Capital one bank or nationwide or something. How do you help them take the learnings that you've had in the, in the EMC code team for them, for whether it's open source, licensing, contributing, how do you help them? A little bit. Yeah. A lot of the questions I get from those customers are, you know, what is it that I opened source? Um, and, and how do I do it? And, you know, why do I do it? I mean, I think that you open source something because you feel like you're Bennett, you can benefit other people and you can take benefit from those other people's interests. >>I think that's why you do something. You also do it because you want to make something consumable, easily consumable for somebody how to do it is a little harder. A lot of these organizations don't have that. Um, we have a phenomenal program with EMC code that helps our customers and internally ADMC do it. We've extended that to our customers now. Um, and, and, and so I think that that's why people are interested, you know, we're really helping helping people kind of go through this journey. Yeah. And I'll, I'll, I'll give a plug for folks that go back to the Wiki bond research side of things. Uh, we just did a big thing with North Ridge ventures. The, uh, the future of open source survey. Lots of really good survey data that's in their lines a lot to what you're talking about really, you know, where a customer's putting open source into production, what are they thinking about, right? >>But also, you know, what are the business models? So we're seeing people say, can I take open source and, and build a SAS application? Should I go build, uh, an IOT device and so forth. What are you, what are you guys excited about the second half of the year? What do you, how do you think about roadmaps or the types of projects you should guys should try and work on? Hi, I'm very excited about our roadmap for the rest of the year. I think that, um, you'll see, uh, you'll see us integrate a little bit more clearly with the leading a containerized environments. Um, a lot of, one of the other biggest problems that I think customers have is, you know, bare metal provisioning on infrastructure. A lot of our customers, despite wanting to move to the cloud, have requirements around on-prem, there'll be a tremendous amount of work on that. Um, so I'm very excited about about sort of making storage and making a container is sort of more palatable and more consumable for our larger customers. Yeah. So that's great. Josh, one of the things we've been seeing is the line between the vendor and the customers has been blurring. Yeah. You know, when we could go to some of the open source shows, you know, that seems like, you know, GE >>and Nike and everything else, not only using but you know, contributing, presenting. Do you have any examples you can show, you know, you mentioned your partner, your partner mezzos is going to be doing, so, uh, uh, you know, any other kind of the big end users that are kind of buying in. >>Yeah. You'll see some of those on stage with us on Wednesday. Yeah. Um, I'm, I think that kind of validation is amazing. When you can work so closely with customers, um, and they will voluntarily stand up on stage with you and sort of validate the work that you've done. Um, I think that'll be, you know, that that's incredibly rewarding. And you'll see those guys come up on Wednesday. Yeah. >>So, so one of the hardest parts about that is of course finding the people. And that's one of the reasons they participate. How's the, you know, the job search go for people. I mean it kind of the talent acquisition. How do you find the people, how do you train them >>for open source people? For open source people? I mean, I think that's the interesting thing. Um, the community is a small place. We joke in the Bay area, right? The bear is a small place and you, you know, somebody in, you know, somebody else and this other person. And so, um, at least for my team, the way we've stopped up is who, who do, you know? Um, and the interesting thing about it is we're less interested in what's on their resume and sort of more interested in what's in their GitHub account or what they've done with the community or what, what their interest is. Um, and that's a really great way to validate, you know, key contributors and key engineers is, is what have you done lately. It helps the new LinkedIn for developers, new LinkedIn. But you know, you want to see what people have done and whether or not they're passionate, right? It's very easy to throw a bunch of projects up there and look like you have a nice resume. Um, but you want to select people that have a passion and, and that's really what's been important to us and that's why our team has grown so well over those past year. >>Just want to give you the final word. People want to, you know, not only find but contribute. Where do they >>yeah, check us out on EMC code.com. Um, if you're at the show, come see us in booth 10 44. We have some really interesting demos there and I'm, I'm excited. I'm very excited to be here. >>All right, Josh Bernstein, congratulations on all you've done over the last year. Looking forward to your keynote on Wednesday and all the sessions that they're, that will be there. We've got three days of live full coverage, two sets. Uh, Dave Volante, John furrier, Brian Gracely, myself. We've got a new host, John Walls here. Jeff Frick's also here. So, you know, cast a thousands helping to bring the cube experience to EMC rolled 2016 stay tuned. We've got lots more coverage. Come in and you're watching the queue. >>Yeah.