>> Announcer: Live from Atlanta, Georgia. It's theCUBE covering Ansible Fest 2019. Brought to you by Red Hat. >> Hello everyone, welcome to theCUBE. We are broadcasting live here, in Atlanta, Georgia. I'm John Furrier with Stu Miniman, my co-host, TheCUBE's coverage of Red Hat, Ansible Fest. This is probably one of the hottest topic areas that we've been seeing in Enterprise Tech emerging, along with observability. Automation and observability is the key topics here. Automation is the theme, Stu, Ansible just finished their keynotes, keynote analysis, general availability of their new platform, the Ansible Automation Platform is the big news. It seems nuanced for the general tech practitioner out there, what's Ansible doing? Why are we here? We saw the rise of network management turn into observability as the hottest category in the cloud 2.0. companies going public, lot of M&A activity, observability is data driven. Automation's this other category that is just exploding in growth and change. Huge impact to all industries and it's coming from the infrastructure scale side where the blocking and tackling of DevOps has been. This is the focus Ansible and their show Automation for all, your analysis of the keynote, What's the most important thing going on here? >> So John, as you said automation is a super hot topic. I was just at the New Relic show talking about observability last week, we've got the Pager Duty show also going on this week. The automation is so critical. We know that IT can't keep up with things if they can't automate it. It's not just replacing some scripting. I loved in the keynote the talked about strategically thinking about automation. We've been watching the RPA companies talk about automation. There's lots of different automation, there's the right way to do it and another angle, John, that we love covering is what's going on with Open Source? You were just at the Open Core summit in San Francisco. The Red Hat team very clear, Open Source is not their business model. They use Open Source and everything that Red Hat does is 100% Open Source and that was core and key to what Ansible was and how it's created. This isn't a product pitch here, it is a community, John this is the 6th most active repository in GitHub. Out of over 100 million repositories out there, the 6th most active. That tells you that this is being used by the community, it's not a couple of companies using this, but it's a broad ecosystem. We hear Microsoft and Cisco, F5, lots of companies that are contributing as well as just all the Nusers. We heard JP Morgan in the keynote this morning, so a lot of participation there. But it is building out that sweep with a platform that you talked about, and we're going to spend a lot of time the next few days understanding this maturation and growth. >> Yeah, the automation platform that they announced, that's the big news. The general availability of their automation platform and Stu, the word they're using here is scale. This is something that you brought up the Open Core summit which I attended last week was the inaugural conference, lot of controversy. And this is a generational shift we are seeing the midst of our own eyes right in front of us, on the ground floor of a shift in Open Source community. How the platform of open source is evolving. What Amazon, now Azure and Google and the others are doing is showing that scale has changed the game in how Open Source is going to not only grow and evolve but shape application developers. And the reason why Ansible is so important right now and this conference is that we all know that when you stand up stuff, infrastructure, you've got to configure the hell out of it. DevOps has always been infrastructures code and as more stuff gets scaled up, as more stuff gets provisions, as more stuff gets built and created, the management and the controlling of the configurations, this has been real hotspot. This has been an opportunity and a problem. Anyone who's here, they're active because you know, this is a major pain point. This is a problem area that's an opportunity to take what is a blocking and tackling operational role, configuring standing up infrastructure, enabling applications and making it a competitive advantage. This is why they game is changing. We're starting to see platforms not tools. Your analysis, are they positioned? Was this keynote successful? >> Yeah, John. I really liked what Robyn Bergeron came out and talked about the key principles of what Ansible has done. It's simplicity, it's modularity and it's learning from Open Source. This project was only started in 2012. One of the things I always look at is in the old days you wanted to have that experience. There's not compressions algorithm for experience. Today, if I could start from day one today, and build with the latest tools, heavily using DevOps, understanding all of the experience that's happened in Open Source, we can move forward. So from 2012 to 2015 Red Hat acquired Ansible, to today in 2019, they're making huge growth and helping companies really leverage and mature their IT processes and move toward true business innovation with leveraging automation. >> Stu, this is not for the faint of heart either. These are rockstar DevOps infrastructure folks who are evolving in taking either network or infrastructure development to enable a software extraction layer for applications. It's not a joke either. I mean they've got some big names up on stage. One tweet I want to call out and get your reaction to. JP Morgan, his presentation the exec there, a tweet came out from Christopher Festa, "500 developers are working to automate business processes leading to among other benefits, 98% improvement in recovery times. What used to take 6 - 8 hours to recover, now takes 2 - 5 minutes." Christopher Festa. Stu. >> So John, that's what we wanted. How can we take these things that took hours and I had to go through this ticketing process and make that change. What I loved of what Chris from JP Morgan did, is he brought us inside and he said look, too make this change it took us a year of sorting through the security, the cyber, the control processes. We understand there's not just oh hey, lets sprinkle a little DevOps on everything and it's wonderful, we need to get buy in from the team, and it can spread between groups and change that culture. It's something that we've tracked in Red Hat for years and all of these environments. This is something that does require commitment, because it's not just John taking oh I scripted something, and that's good. We need to be able to really look at these changes because automation, if we just automate a bad process, that's not going to help out business. We really need to make sure we understand what we're automating, the business value and what is going to be the ramifications of what we're doing. >> Well one of the things I want to share with folks watching is research that we did at SiliconAngle, theCUBE and Wikibon as part of our CUBE insights, Stu I know you're a part of this. We talked to a bunch of practitioners and customers, dozens of our community members and we found that observability we've just pointed out, has been an explosive category. That automation has been identified, and we're putting a stake in the ground, right here in theCUBE as one of the next big sectors that will rise up as a small little white space will become a massive market, automation. You watch that cloud 2.0 sector called automation. Why? The reasoning was this, here's the results of our survey. Automations quickly becoming a critical foundational element of the network as enterprises focus on multi-cloud, network being infrastructures, service and storage, and multi-cloud rapid development and deployment. Software to find everything's happening, pretty much we've been covering that on theCUBE. And most enterprises are just grappling with this concept and see opportunities. The benefit that people see in automation as we've discovered, Stu, are the following: 1. Focused on focused efforts for better results, efficiency, security is a top driver on all these things. You've got to have security built into the software, and then automation is creating job satisfaction for these guys. This is mundane tasks being automated away. So people are happier so job satisfaction. And finally, this is an opportunity to re-skill. Stu, these are the key bullets points that we've found in talking to our community. Your reaction to those results. >> Yeah John, I love that. Ultimately we want to be able to provide not only better value to my ultimate end user, but I need to look internal. As you said, John, how can I retool some of my sales force and get them engaged. And if you want to hire the millennials, they want to not be doing the drudgery, they want to do something where they feel that they are making a difference. You laid out a lot of good reasons why it would help and why people would want to get involved. John, you know I've talked to a number of government adgencys, when we changed that 40 year old process and now we're doing things faster and better, and that means I can really higher that next generation of workers because otherwise I wouldn't be able to higher them to just do things the old way. >> Stu this is about cloud 2.0 and this is about modernization. You mentioned Open Source, Open Core summit, that is a tell sign that Open Source is changing, the communities are changing, this is going to be a massive wave. Again, we've been chronicling this cloud 2.0, we coined that term, and we're trying to identify those key points, obviously observability, automation. But look, at the end of the day, You've go to have a focused effort to make the job go better you heard JP Morgan pointing out. Minutes versus hours. This is the benefit of infrastructure as code. At the end of the day employee satisfaction, the people that you want to hire that can be redeployed into new roles, analytics, math, quantitative analysis, versus the mundane tasks. Automation is going to impact all aspects of the stack. So final question Stu, What are you expecting for the next two days, we're going to be here for two days, what do you expect to hear from our guests. >> So John, one of the things I'm going to really look at is as you mentioned, infrastructure where this all started. So how do I use it to deploy a VM, Ansible's there. VMware, I've already talked to a number of people in the virtualization community, the love and embrace Ansible. We saw Microsoft up on stage, loving and embracing. As we move towards micro-service architectures, containerization and all of these cloud native deployments, how is Ansible and this community doing? Where are the stumbling blocks? To be honest, from what I hear coming into this, Ansible has been doing well. Red Hat has helped them grow even more, and the expectation is that IBM will help proliferate this even further. The traditional competitors to Ansible, you think about the Chefs and Puppets of the world, have been struggling with that cloud native world. John, I know I see Ansible when I go to the cloud shows, I hear customers talking about it. So Ansible seems to making that transition to cloud native well but there are other threats in the cloud native world. When I go to the serverless conference, I have not yet heard where this fits into the environment. So we always know that that next generation in technology, how will this automation move forward. >> As Red Hat starts getting much more proliferated in major enterprises with IBM, which will extend their lead even further in the enterprise, it's an opportunity for Ansible. The community angle is interesting. I want to get your community angle real quick So I saw a tweet from NetApp, their tagline at their booth is Simplify, automate, orchestrate. Sounds like they're leaning into the Kubernetes world, containers, you've got the start of thinking about software obstructions, this aint the provisioning hardware anymore. Whole new ball-game. Your assessment of Ansible's community presence, I mentioned that was a tweet from Red Hat, I mean NetApp. What's your take on the community angle here? >> John it's all about community. The GitHub's staff speak for themselves, this is very much a community event. Kudos to the team here, a lot on the diversity, inclusion effort, so really pushing those things forward. So John, something we always notice at the tech shows, the ratios of gender is way more diverse at an event like this. We know we see it in the developer communities, that there's more diversity in there, gender and ethnicity. >> Still a lot of guys though. >> Sure there is, by the way, when they took over this hotel, all of the bathrooms are gender-neutral, so you can use whatever bathroom you want there. >> I'll make sure I'm using the right pronouns when I'm saying hello to people. Stu, thanks for Commentary. Keynote analysis, I'm John Ferrier with Stu Miniman, breaking down why we are here? Why Ansible? Why is automation important? We believe automation will be a killer category, we're going to see a lot of growth here, and again the impact is with machine learning and A.I. This is where it all starts, automating the data, the technology and the configurations going to empower the next generation modern enterprise. More live coverage from Ansible Fest after this short break. (Upbeat techno music)

live from Atlanta Georgia it's the tube covering ansible fest 2019 brought to you by Red Hat hello everyone welcome to the queue we are broadcasting live here in Atlanta Georgia I'm John force too many men my co-host the cubes coverage of Red Hat ansible Fest this is probably one of the hottest topic areas that we've been seeing in Enterprise tech emerging along with observability automation and observability is the key topics here automation is the theme stew ansible just finished their keynote keynote analysis general availability of their new platform the ansible automation platform is the big news this is a big I mean it seems nuanced for the general tech practitioner out there what's ansible doing why we here we saw the rise of network management turned into observability as the hottest category in the cloud cloud 2.0 companies going public a lot of M&A activity and observability is data-driven automations this other category that is just exploding and growth and change huge impact to all industries and it's coming from the infrastructure scale side where the blocking and tackling of DevOps has been this is the focus of ansible and their show automation for all your analysis of the keynote what's the most important thing going on here yes so John as you said automation is a super hot topic you know I was just at the New Relic show talking about observability last week we've got the Pedro Duty show also going on this week the the automation is so critical we know that IT can't keep up with things if they can't automate it and it's not just replacing some scripting I loved in the keynote they talked about strategically thinking about automation we've been watching the RP a companies talking about automation so there's lots of different automation there's the right way to do it and another thing angle John that we love covering is you know what's going on with open source you were just at the open core summit in San Francisco the Red Hat team very clear open source is not their business model it is they use open source and everything that Red Hat does is a hundred percent open source and that was core and key to what ansible was and how its created this isn't a product pitch here it's a community you know it's John this is the six most active you know repository in github so out of over a hundred million repositories out there the six most active so that tells you that this is being used by the community it's not a couple of companies using this but it's a broad ecosystem we hear Microsoft and Cisco f5 lots of companies that are contributing as well as just all of the end users we of JPMorgan in the keynote this morning so a lot of participation there but you know it is building out that suite with the platform that you talked about and we're gonna spend a lot of time in the next few days understanding this maturation and growth yeah the automation platform that they announced that's the big news the general availability of their automation platform and stew the word they're using here is scale okay and this is something that you brought up to open core summit which I attended last week was the inaugural conference a lot of controversy and this is a generational shift we are seeing in the midst of our own eyes right in front of us on the ground floor of a shift in open source community how the platform of open source is evolving what Amazon now azure and Google and the others are doing is they're showing that scale has changed the game in how open-source is going to not only grow and evolve but shape application developers and the reason why ansible is so important right now in this conference is that we all know that when you stand up stuff infrastructure you've got to configure the hell out of it DevOps has always been infrastructure is code and as more stuff gets scaled up as more stuff gets provision as more stuff gets built and created the management and the controlling of the configurations this has been a real hot spot this has been an opportunity and a problem so you know everyone who's here they're they're active because you know what this is a major pain point this is a problem area that's an opportunity to take what is a blocking and tackling operational role configurating standing up infrastructure enabling applications and making it a competitive advantage this is why the game is changing starting to see platforms not tools your analysis are they positioned was this keynote successful John and I really liked rut Robin Bergeron came out and talked about the key principles of what antal is done its simplicity its modularity and it's learning from open source this project was only started in 2012 so one of the things I always look at is in the old days you wanted you know to have that experience there's no compression algorithm for experience today if I could start from day one today and build with the latest tools you know heavily using DevOps understanding all of the experience that's happened in open source we can move forward so from 2012 to 2015 Red Hat you know acquired ansible to today in 2019 they're making huge growth and helping companies really leverage and mature their IT processes and move towards you know true business innovation with leveraging automation dude this is not and again this is not for the faint of heart either again these are Rockstar DevOps infrastructure folks who are evolving in taking either network and or infrastructure development to enable and software abstraction layer for applications and this not it's not a joke either I mean got some big names up on stage of just one tweet I want to call out and get your reaction to JP Morgan on his presentation the exact there he was tweet came out from Christopher Festa 500 developers are working to automate business processes leading to among other benefits ninety-eight percent improvement in recovery times what used to take six to eight hours to recover now takes two to five minutes Christopher Festa student so John that's what we want is how can we take these things that took you know hours and I had to go through this ticketing process and make that change what I loved of what Chris from JP Morgan said is he brought us inside he said look to make this change it took us a year of sorting through the security the cyber the the control processes we understand there's not just you know oh hey let's sprinkle a little DevOps on everything and it's wonderful we need to get you know buy-in from the team it you know and it can spread between groups and you know change that culture it's something that you know we've tracked in Red Hat for years and all of these environments this something that does require commitment because it's not just John taking oh I scripted something and and and that's good we need to be able to really look at these changes because automation if we just automate a bad process that's not gonna help our business we really need to make sure we understand what we're automating the business value and and what is going are going to be the ramification to what we're doing well one of the things I want to share with folks watching is some research that we did at Silk'n angle the cube and wiki bond it's part of our cube insights do I know you were part of this we talked to a bunch of practitioners and customers and dozens of our of our community members and we found that observability we've just pointed out has been you know explosive category that automation has been identified and we're putting a stake in the ground right here in the cube as one of the next big sectors that will rise up as a small little white space will become a massive market automation you watch that cloud 2.0 sector called automation why the reasoning was this and here's the results of our of our survey automation is quickly becoming a critical foundational element of the network as enterprises focus on multi cloud network being infrastructure servers and storage a multi cloud rapid application development and deployment software-defined everything's happening pretty much we've been covering that on the cube and most enterprises are just crap lling with this concept and see opportunities the benefits that people see in automation as we've discovered still in the following one focused on focused efforts for better results efficiency security is a top driver on all these things because you got to have security built into the software and then automation is creating job satisfaction for these guys I mean they've been doing this is mundane tasks being automated way so people are happier so job satisfaction and finally this is an opportunity to rescale do these are the key bullet points that we found in talking to our serve our community your reaction to those those results yeah John I love that we know ultimately when we want to be able to provide not only better value to my ultimate end user but I need to look internal as you said John you know how can i you know retool some of my sales force and get them engaged and if you want to hire the Millennials they want a bit just and not be doing the drudgery they want to do something where they feel that they are making a difference and you know you laid out a lot of good reasons why it would help and why people would want to get involved John you know the government I've talked to a number of government agencies when they talk about you know we changed that 40-year old process and now we're doing things faster and better and that means I can really hire that next generation of workforce because otherwise I wouldn't be able to hire them to just do things the old way this is about cloud 2 point and this is about modernization and you mention open source open core summit that I think is a tell sign that open source is changing the communities are changing this is gonna be a massive wave again we've been chronicling this cloud 2 point of the week we coined that term we're trying to identify those key points obviously observability automation but look at the end of the day you got to have a focused effort to make the job go better you heard JP Morgan pointing out minutes versus hours this is the benefits of infrastructure as code in the end of the day employee satisfaction the people that you want to hire to re-skill that can be redeployed into new roles analytics math quantitative analysis versus the mundane tasks automation is going to impact all aspects of the stack so final questions do what are you expecting for the next two days we're gonna be here for two days what do you expect to hear from our guests yeah so John one of the things I'm going to really look at is as you mentioned infrastructure is that where this all started so you know how do I easy to play a VM you know ansible is there you know VMware I've already talked to a number of people in the virtualization community they love and embrace ansible we saw Microsoft up on stage loving embrace it as we move towards micro service architectures containerization and all of these cloud native deployments you know how is ansible in this community doing where the stumbling blocks to be honest from what I hear John coming into this anta Buhl's been doing well Red Hat has helped them grow even more and the expectation is that IBM will help proliferate this in even further the traditional competitors to ansible you think about the chef's in puppet to the world have been struggling with that cloud native world John I know I see ansible when I go to the cloud shows and I hear customers talking about it so ansible seems to be making that transition towards cloud native well but other threats in the cloud native world you know if I've said you know that when I when I go to the server lists you know conference I I don't I have not yet heard you know where this fits into the environment so we always know that that next generation and technology you know how will you know this automation move forward as Red Hat starts to get much more proliferating into major enterprises with IBM which will take their extend their lead even further in the enterprise it's an opportunity for ansible and the community angle is interesting I saw our tweets don't get your community your angle real quick on this I saw a tweet from NetApp their tagline at their booth is simplify automate and orchestrate sounds like they're leading into the kubernetes world containers you got to start thinking about software abstractions and this is the st. the you know provisioning hardware anymore whole new ballgame your assessment of an Sable's community presence mentioned I was a tweet from Red Hat I mean NetApp what's your take on the community angle here John it's all about community we the github stats speak for themselves this is very much a community invent you know kudos to the team here a lot on the diversity inclusion effort so really pushing those things forward John something we always notice at the tech shows the ratio of you know gender is way to more diverse at an event like this we know we see it in the developer communities that there was more diversity in there so by the way when they took over this hotel all of the bathrooms are I believe it's you know it's gender-neutral so you can use whatever bathroom yeah you know you you want there let's make sure I'm using the right pronoun when I'm going saying a lot of people Stu thanks for commentary keynote analysis I'm John first dude minimun breaking down why we are here why ansible why is automation important we believe automation will be a killer category we want to see a lot of growth here and again the impact is with machine learning and AI this is where it all starts automating the data the technology and the configuration is going to empower the next generation modern enterprise more live coverage from ansible fests after this short break