>> Announcer: Live from Orlando, Florida, it's theCUBE, covering PentahoWorld 2017. Brought to you by Hitachi Vantara. >> Welcome back to theCUBE's live coverage of PentahoWorld, brought to you, of course, by Hitachi Vantara. I'm your host, Rebecca Knight, along with my co-host, James Kobielus. We have two guests today, we have Michael Becker, a senior chief inspector, and Henry Liebrenz, the police sergeant of the German Federal Police, the Bundespolizei. Welcome, gentlemen. Thanks so much for joining us. So do you want to start out by telling us, telling our viewers a little bit about Bundespolizei and what you do there? >> Okay. The Federal German Police employs about 41,000 people, and as part of Federal German Ministry of Interior, we have, the police is responsible for many demanding and varied tasks, like air control or air safety, rail patrol, water control, crime reduction, and patrol the high seas. And besides an internal task, we do many international missions, police missions all over the world and missions in the European Union for neighboring. And our job, our main job is to development specialty police software. You couldn't buy (foreign words) products, and the development was our own framework based on lamp. >> Classical open source systems plus open source databases plus PHP, it's script language, on the top of it's end. And we built our own absolute framework on this, it's exclusively for us and that's our main job, to build applications on this top. >> And besides our name, our main job we are responsible for the data warehouse and responsible for integration, data integration technologies of the Federal Police. >> So you're both within the IT organization of Bundespolizei, okay. >> Yes, we stay in the IT department that belongs to headquarter. In Germany, or in German police, we have one headquarter, we have 11 district offices, about 80 regional offices, and about 160 local offices. >> All over Germany, is it. >> So when you're thinking about your software challenges, you have a lot of different obstacles: safety, operational, security. What are some of the things that you're taking into account when you're implementing software? >> Um, what we take in account? Not so easy to (speaking in foreign language). >> What is your approach? What are the things on your mind that is keeping you up at night? >> We have two different ways. The main way is to build software. And we have in special case. In turn case we build software that bring is on the point for this case. The other way is we have a way to product data in this cases. That's the other way. What can we do with this data? That's the other case around Pentaho. We want to have more benefit with this kind of data. >> What sort of data driven application development do you do or do you oversee for Bundespolizei? Can you describe some of the applications within their specific functions? >> We have one main application is our time planning tool. So all the shifts on the agencies it's possible to plan. In one case that we build on this platform and it's exclusively for us. We have the situation that other polices in Germany ask us about. Hey, that's very a good solution. Maybe we can take it also for us. But because it's a little bit different for normal situations outside and in other companies. Because we have the situation 24 hours, seven days a week, 365 days a year to bring our services. We have a big many rules about this kind of working. The offices get some more money in the night or it's Saturday and something like this it's not so easy to implement with normal software. So we were at the case what we do. Then okay we do it ourself and that's exactly on point. >> You describe the rules, you're describing the rules that are provided from the European Union or from your government in terms of security, privacy, and so forth. Is that what you're describing? How have this whole total set of rules and policies and mandates shaped your data management strategy within your organization? How does the Pentaho set of solutions support those requirements? >> I think with Pentaho I told it yesterday also it was for us definitely the game changer. It's definitely true. Before we don't have the chance to build something like this only was two us. But now we have the big Swiss knife. We get entrance with especially with the Ketel, solution, PDI. >> With Ketel everything is possible. >> It's not possible to build your own. >> That was the entrance to build a strategy about it. Then at this point we had the solution to let the data flow wherever you want. Then we start okay, when can we have data every time at every point. So what can we do with it? What is the benefit for us? We start to come in discussion with our other departments inside what is your problem? What can we do to help you to get more benefit about it? >> How much sharing goes on between departments? >> Henry: The sharing? >> Yes, in terms of as you said, how can I help you? Oh, we are doing something over here. >> I think it's a classic job like other. (speaking in foreign language) We do it inside so we go to the other departments and have this part of discussion. We try to bring it in the right way. >> What degree of this sharing is intergovernmental? Meaning you are reaching out to your peer agencies within the European Union maybe through Interpol to other nations? Is any of that going on and is Pentaho playing a role in terms of helping you in that regard? (speaking in foreign language) >> How we have to say? >> If you don't want to say or can't say. >> Actually I think in German or in European it's not so big. I don't know why, I can't believe it. But it's also to take advantage at Pentaho that you can start at any time. You can start as a community. We work also before, two years with the (voice is muffled). And started this year with enterprise and we have only one day for integration from the community server of the new enterprise server. No problems. I think that is a great benefit. You can almost start with a small problem or data integration. >> In the past the other big companies maybe they had a little bit earlier start. Pentaho, the goal to come along the other players. I think in Europe, especially in Germany at the moment can be good. >> In Germany we have a situation over Pentaho user meeting or Pentaho community meetings but also other agencies come and ask why Pentaho and how did you do it? >> Is there an ongoing program of working with other federal agencies in Germany to share the best practices you've learned from using data at least to manage your agency's requirements? What could they learn from what you've done? >> The progress is starting now so the other come to us. We meet together and they want to take a look directly on our screens and want to see some cases. We play for them live and it's a very interesting situation. When they see eh, you have the same problems as I. It's interesting. >> And very important is also that we learned and we have learned from Pentaho that everything is possible. You need much less time for everything or for every kind of problem. We are very fast. Before we used to have another (foreign word), it's called Excel. It's crazy, it's good for statistics but we have no data quality. >> It's not possible to work with big data. (voice is muffled) >> Our data are actual, daily actual. Before we wait for one month or two months. >> Before we had exactly one day per month. At this day the data was correct only one day. And other other days we had to collect the data for the next month. >> It's a whole new world with Pentaho. Henry and Michael, thank you so much for coming on theCube. It was great having you on here. >> Thank you very much. >> We will have more from theCube's live coverage of PentahoWorld just after this. (upbeat digital music)