>> on stew minimum, and this is a special on the ground here at the V tug Summer Slam. Of course, the V tug is the virtual ization in Technology User group, and the veto has always been great at getting us. Some of these users on the programs have any welcome back then. Valentine, who's in I t operating for Danon, the parent company of Dannon, spoke to you in 2017 >> at the >> winter warmer at Gillette Stadium. Since last we spoke, you no longer live in New England. But you have, ah ah, long history with this event. So let's start there what this event meant to you and what brought you back for the ultimate final V tug >> event here. Well, I have a long professional relationship with Chris Williams. He's one of the organizers of the events, and since he introduced me to it and I started coming, my career has really taken off the contacts that you congenital rate and the networking that you could do. An event like this is just unparalleled, and you can also learn a lot from the events, too. But it's almost a footnote because of everything else that you can gain from its ending something like this on a regular basis. Yeah, >> it's a great always look at this show. And when they do the breakout sessions, the Expo Hall gets pretty empty because people are wanting >> to learn. >> But it is the networking, you know, people sitting, you know, before the events, people sitting at lunch. And of course, you know, this evening at the lobster event, there's definitely some good networking, you know, going on, there s >> o, you know, explain. You >> know, from your standpoint, you know, this event started very heavily in virtualization, but it's gone through. You know what? What's changing into Industries Cloud and Dev ops in those environments Is that kind of followed, similar to what you've been seeing in your career? Oh, >> yes, absolutely. I mean, I started off his assists. Admin very heavy and B m wear like a lot of us in that field. Onda, Of course, you know everything's evolving now that the only constant is change. And what I like most about this event is that they have. They've changed the vendors that come in. They've changed the keynote. They've changed the different breakout sessions to keep the information that you're obtaining relevant. It's not redundant. And it allows you to just keep a good bead on what's out there and what to expect in the coming years. All >> right, Dan. What? What? What? What is what's interesting you These days I don't know if you've gotten a chance to go to any of the breakouts or you know what you were looking at coming at the event. But other than coming back and seeing some of the people you know, even though you're no longer in the area, you know what was catching your interest? >> Well, something that's very different since the last time I spoke to you is Cloud specifically for the company that I work for. At that time, it was just a research. It was a nice idea. It was something that, of course, tech was talking about. But the business wasn't interested. And now we're actually in the middle of a cloud implementation for all of our data centers were moving off KREM. We're taking things to the cloud, and we're in the infancy stage of actually, the implementation of the projects has been very beneficial to come here and gain that knowledge. >> Yeah, I heard that one of the themes that was over and over, you know, in the keynotes at this event as well as when I hear many Joe Joe's and just, you know it's not just changed, but, you know, how can I become more agile on? And how can I adopt new things? Theo? Enterprise is, you know, not known for change or speed. You know, what are you seeing in your world? And when you talk to your peers, you know, kind of the openness to be able to embrace technique, new technology that make changes in the way things are done. >> Well, from my personal experience, I would say that most companies intentionally stay a little bit behind when there's a lot of money involved. When you return on, your investment is high. Um, you're not going to jump right into the brand new thing, you know. So there's a There's an intentional, deliberate lag there behind what's brand new behind what your options are at that moment. Um, so I So I think that businesses do, and they do want to move along. They are interested in it, but the validity has to be proven first. All >> right, Dan. Want to give you, You know, your final thoughts that the final be tug any any memories from the events or, you know, last words that you have for the beach community. >> Well, there's definitely some memories that I wouldn't feel comfortable sharing, but ah, this will. This will be missed. I can say that this has been a huge part of my career up to this point. And I have every intention of keeping contact with many of the people that I've met here and continuing to build on those relationships throughout my career. And I'm pretty confident that it wouldn't be exactly where I am now. If it wasn't for my relationship with Chris and the other people, he's introduced me to this event. >> Waves of technology definitely come and go in the different tools, their environment. But those relationships are so important, you know, our careers in the communities that we're part of self. Thanks for coming back from Colorado, and thank you. We appreciate you sharing your story with our community on the cute. >> Yes, of course. Thank you. All >> right. Uh, I'm Sue Minutemen, as always. Thank you so much for watching the cue